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New Chaintech motherboard has problems
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Zentraleinheit@copper.net
2005-12-01 21:06:43 UTC
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1: No USB devices will work.

2: My ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro AGP card is not listed nor available.

3: While my 3. 5 floppy drive is listed as available, I can’s access any
data from it.

4: My 5.25 floppy drive is not listed at all

5: I don’t get any sound from the built in audio,

6: The Red power LED and Green Hard Drive LED do not light under any
circumstances.

Also, as I power up I get the following post codes:

50 52 60 6F 75 7F 8B 96

And the message: “Floppy Drive Fail (40)

Has anyone any ideas?
Uncle jimmy
2005-12-02 05:09:06 UTC
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What exactly did you do? There is not enough info!

In another post you say you wanted to use an old drive so are you using an
old drive and trying to boot that without reinstalling xp ((which i assume
you are using you dont say and thats important)

If you ARE using xp then you need to do a repair install

If you need to know how to do this post back

If that doesnt work then a complete reinstall of xp is required and then you
will have to load your driver discs etc

For example.......is your usb`s USB2? If so then you need to load sp1 or 2
before they will work!

You also need to load a driver for your video card.

Give more detailed info and someone may help you or I will as far as I can!
Post by ***@copper.net
1: No USB devices will work.
2: My ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro AGP card is not listed nor available.
3: While my 3. 5 floppy drive is listed as available, I can's access any
data from it.
4: My 5.25 floppy drive is not listed at all
5: I don't get any sound from the built in audio,
6: The Red power LED and Green Hard Drive LED do not light under any
circumstances.
50 52 60 6F 75 7F 8B 96
And the message: "Floppy Drive Fail (40)
Has anyone any ideas?
Zentraleinheit@copper.net
2005-12-02 21:22:04 UTC
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Excuse the lack of detail on my last post, but, after hours of trying to get
my chaintech motherboard running one tends to loose ones focus!

The problem is with a Chiantech S1689 939 socket MB using the Uli M1689
chipset. I am running the original Windows 98 OS, 512 of memory, and an AMD
Athlon64 3000+ CPU.

While I have many problems, I am only go to focus on the top three.

1: After checking "enable" in the BIOS for USB 1.1 (with keyboard and mouse)
and USB 2.0, I was able to finally get my mouse/graphic pad to work.
However, only using Windows' built in drivers. When I tried to load the
mouse/pad own drivers, I got the messages that there is no USB ports on the
computer. No other USB device that I tried will work either. In addition no
USB ports/hubs show up in System.

2: I cannot load the drivers for my ATI All-in-Wonder 128 video card. When I
try to use Windows' automatic system to find my video card, all it finds and
loads are the OS's own standard VGA drivers. Making the screen look like it
does when in safe mode. I have gone into the BIOS and "told" it use the AGP
port, but, I do not know whether it does or does not. For when I try to
manually load the drivers for this card I get the following message:

"The Display Driver is not Compatible with the Display Adapter(s) Installed
on Your System"

The video card in seated firmly in the AGP slot, and it did work in my last
system. So, why can't this MB/OS "see it?"

3: While the BIOS and Windows' see that I have a 3.5 floppy drive as A: I
cannot read/write to it. When I do, I get the message that the drive does
not exist. On the other hand, the BIOS/OS cannot see my 5.25 B: floppy
drive. It does not show up anywhere. In addition, as the computer boots up,
a message appears saying: "Floppy Disk(s) Fail (40)."

Also, the following post codes appear as the computer boots up:

50 52 60 6F 75 7F 8B 96

I have contacted Chaintech USA and their answer was to reinstall Windows 98
since I hade an OS failure. However, I doubt that, and I would like a second
opnion before going to such a desperate step.

I hope that with this more detailed report that an answer can be found.

Thank you for any help
Zentraleinheit@copper.net
2005-12-03 21:12:19 UTC
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Another Chapter in the Saga of the S1689 Motherboard :-)

I did what Chainthech support said and reinstalled Windows 98.

IT WORKED (all most)!

I now have my ATI video card, USB, ports, and sound.

However, the problem with the Floppy disks remain.
Post by ***@copper.net
While the BIOS and Windows' see that I have a 3.5 floppy drive as A: I
cannot read/write to it. When I do, I get the message that the drive does
not exist. On the other hand, the BIOS/OS cannot see my 5.25 B: floppy
drive. It does not show up anywhere. In addition, as the computer boots up,
a message appears saying: "Floppy Disk(s) Fail (40)."
Post by ***@copper.net
I can't figure out why, I think I installed the ribbon the right way (the
wire with the red coloring is pin one ain't it?). I tried both the
connections in the middle and at the end of the cable. Yet my 5.25 B: drive
is not notice at all, and while the 3.5 A: drive is "seen" by the bios and
Windows 98. I still can't read or write to it.

I'll try asking the same question from Chaintech, maybe between this group
and them an answer can be discovered.
Uncle jimmy
2005-12-05 04:52:50 UTC
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did you remember to reverse the floppy cable at the floppy end??

this usually causes error 40
Post by ***@copper.net
Another Chapter in the Saga of the S1689 Motherboard :-)
I did what Chainthech support said and reinstalled Windows 98.
IT WORKED (all most)!
I now have my ATI video card, USB, ports, and sound.
However, the problem with the Floppy disks remain.
Post by ***@copper.net
While the BIOS and Windows' see that I have a 3.5 floppy drive as A: I
cannot read/write to it. When I do, I get the message that the drive does
not exist. On the other hand, the BIOS/OS cannot see my 5.25 B: floppy
drive. It does not show up anywhere. In addition, as the computer boots up,
a message appears saying: "Floppy Disk(s) Fail (40)."
Post by ***@copper.net
I can't figure out why, I think I installed the ribbon the right way (the
wire with the red coloring is pin one ain't it?). I tried both the
connections in the middle and at the end of the cable. Yet my 5.25 B: drive
is not notice at all, and while the 3.5 A: drive is "seen" by the bios and
Windows 98. I still can't read or write to it.
I'll try asking the same question from Chaintech, maybe between this group
and them an answer can be discovered.
Zentraleinheit@copper.net
2005-12-05 17:00:41 UTC
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Post by Uncle jimmy
did you remember to reverse the floppy cable at the floppy end?
Yes, I tried that. and may other way of connecting (using the middle
connector - using the last connector-pluging in to the MB/Drive with the red
stripe at the 1st pin-the red stripe in the last pin- etc).

And except for the green power light going off instead of staying on,the
same keeps on happening.

The A: drive is seeen by the BIOS and in Windows 98, but, when I try to
acess it I get after a minute or so of the computer being frozen a pop-up
saying that the drive is unaccessable. Or it will make noise if the the
cable is in the other way, but, will still be unaccessable to the computer.
Yet still be seen by it!

Plus, on boot up I still get the Floppy Disk(s) Fail (40). Even with the B:
drive cable (which only plugs in one way) installed or not installed.

P.S. Putting the floppy disk connector at the bottom of the MB is a bad
design mistake!
Zentraleinheit@copper.net
2005-12-06 16:26:15 UTC
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Post by Uncle jimmy
did you remember to reverse the floppy cable at the floppy end?
OOPS - I been a bad boy!

I thought I did, but, I read the manual wrong and thought the pin one was on
the right side of the MB connector. - Its on the LEFT!

Once I got the pins right my A: dirve workes.

But, as for the B: drive?

Because Chaintech unwisely put the floppy disk (among others) connection at
the bottom of the MB my cable is not long enought to reach my second floppy
drive.

I must either find a longer cable, or when I get a new case, find one in
which the distance between the MB and drives are shorter.

Sorry for the mix-up, but, ones mind go dim as it get colder :-)))))))))
Ginchy
2005-12-08 15:43:07 UTC
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I may have a floppy cable for you ...I am Unkle Jimmy BTW.............

Measure the size you need and I will go through them I have quite a few

Are you still left with any problems or is that you all sorted now?
Post by ***@copper.net
Post by Uncle jimmy
did you remember to reverse the floppy cable at the floppy end?
OOPS - I been a bad boy!
I thought I did, but, I read the manual wrong and thought the pin one was on
the right side of the MB connector. - Its on the LEFT!
Once I got the pins right my A: dirve workes.
But, as for the B: drive?
Because Chaintech unwisely put the floppy disk (among others) connection at
the bottom of the MB my cable is not long enought to reach my second floppy
drive.
I must either find a longer cable, or when I get a new case, find one in
which the distance between the MB and drives are shorter.
Sorry for the mix-up, but, ones mind go dim as it get colder :-)))))))))
Zentraleinheit
2005-12-11 21:57:51 UTC
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Post by Ginchy
Measure the size you need and I will go through them I have quite a few
For both a 3.5 and a 5.25 drive?
Post by Ginchy
Are you still left with any problems or is that you all sorted now
Are you Kidding?

I still have my first and major problem!

I can't video capture with my All-in-Wonder 128 pro video card. Yet I have
no graphic trouble otherwise.

Every time I try - Or when I first use DixDiag after uploading DirectX9c- I
get the following error message.

A Fatal Exception 0E has occured at 0028:00000009, The current application
will be terminated.

I don't know if it is the application (it wored before I upgraded) or that
somthiong to do with this motherboard prevents video caputure with ATI
applications.

Any help would be nice - I getting sick of waiting for the computer to
reboot after trying a fix- and nothing happens!
Ginchy
2005-12-11 23:41:51 UTC
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Try removing your ati capture driver

Then install dx9c

Then reinstall the capture driver

or if thats the way you done it before reverse the order

So the origianl ide cable for the floppy had both 3.5 and 5.25 on the same
cable? I thought they were seperate..its just standard floppy cables I have!

email me for a quicker response if you want just remove the capitol B`s
Post by Zentraleinheit
Post by Ginchy
Measure the size you need and I will go through them I have quite a few
For both a 3.5 and a 5.25 drive?
Post by Ginchy
Are you still left with any problems or is that you all sorted now
Are you Kidding?
I still have my first and major problem!
I can't video capture with my All-in-Wonder 128 pro video card. Yet I have
no graphic trouble otherwise.
Every time I try - Or when I first use DixDiag after uploading DirectX9c- I
get the following error message.
A Fatal Exception 0E has occured at 0028:00000009, The current application
will be terminated.
I don't know if it is the application (it wored before I upgraded) or that
somthiong to do with this motherboard prevents video caputure with ATI
applications.
Any help would be nice - I getting sick of waiting for the computer to
reboot after trying a fix- and nothing happens!
Ginchy
2005-12-11 23:45:48 UTC
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your error is quite common

2 possibles right away are Norton Internet Security and AOL

but read here you might find the answer

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.win98.internet.browser/browse_frm/thread/6d842b21af18c709/385fb81aa8e164dc?lnk=st&q=A+Fatal+Exception+0E+has+occured+at+0028%3A00000009%2C+The+current+application&rnum=2&hl=en#385fb81aa8e164dc
Post by Zentraleinheit
Post by Ginchy
Measure the size you need and I will go through them I have quite a few
For both a 3.5 and a 5.25 drive?
Post by Ginchy
Are you still left with any problems or is that you all sorted now
Are you Kidding?
I still have my first and major problem!
I can't video capture with my All-in-Wonder 128 pro video card. Yet I have
no graphic trouble otherwise.
Every time I try - Or when I first use DixDiag after uploading DirectX9c- I
get the following error message.
A Fatal Exception 0E has occured at 0028:00000009, The current application
will be terminated.
I don't know if it is the application (it wored before I upgraded) or that
somthiong to do with this motherboard prevents video caputure with ATI
applications.
Any help would be nice - I getting sick of waiting for the computer to
reboot after trying a fix- and nothing happens!
Zentraleinheit
2005-12-12 15:48:15 UTC
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Post by Ginchy
2 possibles right away are Norton Internet Security and AOL
I have been reading the same thing, but, I never had AOL.

And While I do have Norton Anti-Virus and Firewall, then never acted up wehn
I had my old motherboard.

Now I have found that even if I remove my ATI drivers, but leave direct X8.1
on the computer I get the same error message when I run DxDiag.

I am beginning to think maybe the ULi chipset of this MB has somekind of
problem with Direct X 8.1 or higher.

Have you ever heard of such a problem?
Ginchy
2005-12-12 18:41:03 UTC
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It wont be your motherboard.

It will be a software fault

It is actually quite common knowledge that you should switch off virus
checkers before installing any software

Also Norton software is REKNOWNED for interfering with all sorts of things.

Probably the reason you didnt have the fault before is that you installed
the software in a different order. I am sure it is more to do with this than
there being a problem with your mobo

If you have the patience you could start again and reformat. Another
thing.......didnt you have to reinstall to get your usb working? It occurs
to me that your windows disc is faulty or your cd rom isnt reading it
properly and that could be causing a corrupt install.

worth a thought..........
Post by Zentraleinheit
Post by Ginchy
2 possibles right away are Norton Internet Security and AOL
I have been reading the same thing, but, I never had AOL.
And While I do have Norton Anti-Virus and Firewall, then never acted up wehn
I had my old motherboard.
Now I have found that even if I remove my ATI drivers, but leave direct X8.1
on the computer I get the same error message when I run DxDiag.
I am beginning to think maybe the ULi chipset of this MB has somekind of
problem with Direct X 8.1 or higher.
Have you ever heard of such a problem?
Zentraleinheit
2005-12-13 18:28:07 UTC
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I tried removing Norton - reinstalling the ATI drivers.

Not only do I still have the same problem

I now can get my firewall and e-mail potection to work!

Why would somhting that gave me no problems before now is nothing but
trouble!

Sometimes I think I shold go back to my 486 computer and Win 3.11!

Or maybe my 8088 and DOS 1.1!!
Post by Ginchy
reinstall to get your usb working
I don't know since I did not have to use my USP ports untill I had to
reinstall Windows98 so I could get it to notice the PCI slot and the video
card that was in it.
Guy
2005-12-03 23:33:41 UTC
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I doubt this board even supports a 5-14" drive; did the FDD cable tha
came in the box have one header? I am surprised the pin-out is eve
compatible.

Assuming the board does support the 5-14" FDD, try going into BIOS an
activating it. There should be instructions in your manual.

I hope you can get it running

Have you re-installed your graphics tablet yet? I highly recommend
system restore point before doing so. I think you had an IR
conflict
uddarts
2005-12-13 19:40:51 UTC
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Post by ***@copper.net
1: No USB devices will work.
2: My ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro AGP card is not listed nor
available.
3: While my 3. 5 floppy drive is listed as available, I can’s
access any
data from it.
4: My 5.25 floppy drive is not listed at all
5: I don’t get any sound from the built in audio,
6: The Red power LED and Green Hard Drive LED do not light
under any
circumstances.
50 52 60 6F 75 7F 8B 96
And the message: “Floppy Drive Fail (40)
Has anyone any ideas
"Excuse the lack of detail on my last post, but, after hours of
trying to get
my chaintech motherboard running one tends to loose ones focus! "

i know exactly. it can be frustrating and i’m glad you asked for help.
i have spent nearly infinate hours trying to do it myself.

"I have contacted Chaintech USA and their answer was to reinstall
Windows 98
since I hade an OS failure. However, I doubt that, and I would like a
second
opnion before going to such a desperate step. "

they are giving you the same advice that i and probably many others
would too. if you can get it to work at some point with the current os
from the other board, somewhere down the line your going to end up
doing a fresh install. i would imagine your new board is using a
totally different chipset than the old one. if you still can get your
old system up and running and save whatever files you want to save or
install it on a friends computer and copy to his drive, cds or dvds.
then format and reinstall windows.

"I cannot load the drivers for my ATI All-in-Wonder 128 video card.
When I
try to use Windows’ automatic system to find my video card, all it
finds and
loads are the OS’s own standard VGA drivers. Making the screen look
like it
does when in safe mode. I have gone into the BIOS and "told" it use
the AGP
port, but, I do not know whether it does or does not. For when I try
to
manually load the drivers for this card I get the following message:

"The Display Driver is not Compatible with the Display Adapter(s)
Installed
on Your System"

The video card in seated firmly in the AGP slot, and it did work in my
last
system. So, why can’t this MB/OS "see it?"

boy, do i know your pain on that one. i have run into that one at
least a half dozen times. i have yet to figure out what it takes to
get to load the drivers for the card. i have always gotten it at some
point but after trying dozens of different attacks at the problem i
never remember exactly what i did.

"While the BIOS and Windows’ see that I have a 3.5 floppy drive as A:
I
cannot read/write to it. When I do, I get the message that the drive
does
not exist. On the other hand, the BIOS/OS cannot see my 5.25 B: floppy
drive. It does not show up anywhere. In addition, as the computer
boots up,
a message appears saying: "Floppy Disk(s) Fail (40)." "

as i asked before, does the lite on the floppy stay lit? if it does
you have one of those goofy floppy drives that needs the cable turned
upside down from usual notched area of the drive. if it doesn’t fit
you have shave the little nub on the cable off enough to get it to
plug in the other way.

if the floppy lite just blinks on and off as normal when booting then
maybe try another floppy cable. also check the pins on both the drive
and the board and make sure all pins are straight.




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uddarts
2005-12-13 19:36:50 UTC
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Post by ***@copper.net
1: No USB devices will work.
2: My ATI All In Wonder 128 Pro AGP card is not listed nor
available.
3: While my 3. 5 floppy drive is listed as available, I can’s
access any
data from it.
4: My 5.25 floppy drive is not listed at all
5: I don’t get any sound from the built in audio,
6: The Red power LED and Green Hard Drive LED do not light
under any
circumstances.
50 52 60 6F 75 7F 8B 96
And the message: “Floppy Drive Fail (40)
Has anyone any ideas?
when the board hits the first boot screen, tap delete key. when the
bios screen appears move to the load optimal settings save and exit.

power and hd leds, do a 180º with the connectors at the motherboard.

does the led lite on the floppy stay lit?

what board do you have?

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